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Welcome, assuming this is actually you!--CPalmer 10:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


gun control

If this is you, might you add a section to gun control for Japan? AddisonDM 16:51, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

It is! What is the policy for copying our own articles from CP? If so, I have very nice entry on the topic - but it more an article on its own. [1] Please let me know what you think would be best to do.
Yes, I remember your article on CP. Since the article is simply gun control, it's more of an overview. I would say reeuse just the most important info from the CP article, and don't copy it verbatim. Just get the idea of it. Thanks! AddisonDM 17:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Let me see what I can do. --User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 17:16, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
The copy policy is here.--WJThomas 17:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I have added what I think are the pertinent items relating to it. Please feel free to butcher accordingly. --User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 09:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. Now we have info on two nations, so it's not US-centric anymore. Thanks! AddisonDM 18:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


Best way to stop them is to add a small note to your CP page saying who you are here. Then the impersonators have the rug pulled from under their feet. A.Fox 19:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Good idea - thank you. Done! --User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 19:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

The Other Place

Hi Kotomi-san. My sympathies on being de-sysoped at the other place. Are you going to spend more time here? Toffeeman 22:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Condolences, as well. Will we see a return of TokyoRose? The EmperorRise, my apprentice 01:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Please bring your work (especially the articles on Japanese culture) over here. You will make this a better place. SamHB 02:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your wishes everybody, although I have been expecting it in a way; TK does not like people trying to thwart his trolling. Well, he has free reign now. At least I can hold my head high and my conscience is clear.
Sam thank you for your mail - I have not had chance to read it properly yet, but I will and will reply. As for wiki work, I think I am going to be taking an indefinite, hard-earned break for a while, but in the meantime, to prevent things stagnating, if anybody wants to copy my work across, they have my full permission. User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 08:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Whoops, don't forget this. Regardless, greetings KotomiT. Enjoy your break, and if you decide to make yourself at home here afterward, then you would be most welcome. BradleyF (LowKey) 13:54, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
TK does seem out of control right now, it looks like Andy is actually trying to please him rather than just permit his trolling when it doesn't affect him.
But don't let the event bother you, just enjoy your break for now. NF 15:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not going to beg you to come over to the other place. But if you could check out my talk page over there and help me identify my current mystery coin, it would be appreciated. It says New Sennari Olympia Osaka on it, so I thought you might be able to help.
Sorry to see them give you the boot over there, BTW.--Nate River 21:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Absolutely unfair. You were one of the few remaining people who actually contributed material to CP (although, to be totally honest, you were adopting some of TKs blocking habits). I wonder if Andy will realize the damage that TK is causing, or, more importantly, I wonder if he cares. CorryTalk 06:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Doubt it. For Andy to punish TK, first Andy would have to admit that TK was wrong. Since TK is a major player at CP, that might mean that TK's influence over CP is wrong, and therefore a large chunk of CP is wrong. Andy admits no guilt and apologizes very rarely, so it is very unlikely.--Nate River 19:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

(undent) For what it's worth, Kotomi, I'd just let go of CP altogether - that project's in a severe downward spiral, and I wouldn't resume editing there if even if they unblocked my account. You have a lot to offer though, and I hope you find an outlet for your talents here or somewhere else. --DinsdaleP 20:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you again everybody, for your kind words of support (and criticism, which has been duly noted and for which I apologise). I have spent the last week or so thinking and it boils down to the fact that over the last 12 months I have really wasted my life on an exercise in futility. So for the foreseeable future I am going to devote quality time to my family, my career and most importantly, myself. So in a way, this is goodbye to all of you - although 'goodbye' sounds so final, so maybe I should just wave and say, "ja matte ne!". (See you later).
I was talking about all this with my cousin, a magazine editor, who suggested that I should write everything about my experiences down one day, as a sort of catharsis. She (no doubt her journalistic blood was boiling) is also going to use her contacts to see if Vanity Fair would be interested in a behind-the-scenes follow up to their original article, but still I have to think about taking that step, as tempting as it might be right now. User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 11:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, I, for one, wish you the best of luck in the future, and please do check in once in a while. Ja matte ne! (that sounds familiar!) --WesleySHello! 12:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Just forget them, they're not worth the attention.User 11speak to me 09:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I have not been Editing of Late only reading. I am Sorry that you have been so Badly Treated. While I would not suggest that you act in a spirit of Revenge, a Cathartic work of the type you suggest could be good for the Soul. Perhaps simply Writing it and not Publishing would work just as well.--Tolerance 18:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Interesting name!

So your family name means "middle of a rice paddy". My given name means "broad pastureland". It seemed vaguely similar to me. BradleyF (LowKey) 10:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

What a coincidence! Than, I suppose all surnames to have a similar root, usually in the occupation of the family, or something similar. More useless information is that the name Tanaka, can be traced back to the Shinsen shojiroku, which was written in the 9th century, so it would appear as if we have been around for a while - probably explains why so many people have the name! User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 11:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
My surname (Fleming) goes back to the 10th or 11th century in the Scottish Highlands. It was originally used to identify Flemish mercenaries, but was applied to those that settled and became their family names. Generally it seems highlanders had very long memories and didn't want "incomers" or their decendants to forget that they were "other". (It must come with the territory. We also have ties to Macdonald clan, and my brother is still angry at the Campbells, which is literally a long story). On the other hand, it is interesting how often in Clan history the "man behind the man" was a Fleming (but I think only the Flemings have been keeping track!). Nothing so deep on my Mother's side. Her family name "Westlake" means, er, west lake (so I guess it could be deep after all!).BradleyF (LowKey) 13:10, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, Bradley - I think I left this hanging when I took my break. I have a feeling it might be much the same in European history, but in feudal Japan especially, only the nobility and samurai classes had family names. Below the samurai in social standing were the farmers (where I assume our name comes from), then the artisans and finally the traders were lowest (ironically many of the samurai relied on the traders for an income and job, when they weren't fighting each other). So if Tomoya was a fisherman, he would have been known as Ryoushi Tomoya (remember, our family name always comes first) and that would have been developed into a family name. English names like Carter, or Farmer, probably have a similar root. It is also strange what you say about long-lasting enmity between families. My mother is Mori samurai clan (well, samurai no longer exist but the surviving bloodlines are still fiercely proud and traditional in many respects) and there is still bad blood between them and several other families (especially the Kuroda, which dates back to Oda Nobunaga's wars in the 1500s). -- KotomiTOhayou! 09:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't concerned about the delay. It is just nice to have a discussion that doesn't involve great long point-by-point sections and lots of technical reading! Considering the Highland clans and Japanese clans it strikes me that regardless of culture, people are the same the world over in so many respects. I find it amazing that my brother (and his sons) can actually be angry at someone they meet today based on something someone else did over 300 years ago, let alone things that happened hundreds of years before that.BradleyF (LowKey) 04:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory

Some people suspect that you actually don't exist, but are a creation of a Rationalwiki user following Bugler's and others' footsteps. According to them, your slowly acquiring of more Conservapedian manners (see: blocking policy) was part of the plan. They think that you felt it's not worth it after your recent mishappenings in CP and therefore decided to let your character die - maybe to start another. What would you say to these people? IndependentObserver 12:46, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

"Hello, Terry," to start with, followed by, "I have this really great bridge you might like to buy." User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 12:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
KotomiT FTW! The EmperorRise, my apprentice 00:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I laughed this off yesterday, but after thinking about it overnight, I dawned on me what a malicious and small-minded person Terry must be, to continue to cast aspersions on my character even after I have left CP. (And IndependentObserver is undoubtedly TK, he obviously has his reasons for not creating an account under his own name here - the "Some people..." accusation is one he has used on me before.) It speaks volumes about his own insecurities that he continues his nonsense elsewhere, even after I am no longer a threat to his games on CP. User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 08:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
But you are a threat. Anyone who thinks, "Hey, that Jessica was good and loyal contributor. What ever happened to her?" might be inspired to learn a bit and uncover the truth. That's why history has to be rewritten, to make it seem like you were never a "good and loyal contributor", but rather an evil parodist, and thus halt any lines of questioning about you. "He who controls the present, controls the past..." If you're not unpersoned, you might inspire doubt in those left behind.
I obviously can't be sure if this is TK or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if this became a prevalent belief over there. Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to stop it. All you can do is put it behind you. --LiamG 10:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC) BTW - Thanks for being so nice to me before :-)
It's a fair cop. I must own up to being Jessica. Just as I was also Fox, BrianCo and AuldNick. But they're all in the past. Well spotted TK I thought I might have fooled you yet again. It worked for a while but can you spot the other two? Genghis 17:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually you gave your most successful one away on RW a few weeks ago, Genghis, but I am not outing it: it is too good to be outed. Jessica was obvious from the start, but this new one will really surprise many people, both in Conservapedia and in Rationalwiki. Chapeau! IndependentObserver 08:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone have a "Don't Feed the Indepedent Observer" template? New3.pngPink(Inertia presides over burnt modernist strides) 08:32, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Also, please do not claim things on my behalf - especially things the paranoid and gullible are likely to swallow hook, line and sinker. I know Terry is a little, little man (more than I possibly imagined), desperate to justify his malignant actions to himself, but if you must play with him, do so on your own pages please. As far as I am concerned, this matter is closed. User:KotomiTnandeyanen? 09:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

(undent (and EC))

Liam echoes my sentiments. Andy Schlafly has decided to place less value on tolerant, proven contributors like yourself and more on people like TK, who contribute little that's truly encyclopedic or informative, and instead obsess over blocking people due to the sites they belong to or the IP addresses they edit from than anything they actually did on CP. I've always thought it ironic that a site which promotes a MYOB policy is full of blocks and reversions by sysops who have no problem jumping into other peoples' interactions as self-appointed Thought Police.

The conspiracy thinking behind IndependentObserver's comment above is strikingly like the paranoia that TK feeds on. If you're open-minded and tolerant you are a liberal, and anything you do on CP is suspect. If you echo the deep-conservative sentiments of Andy Schlafly, then you are a RW mole following a deep-cover playbook, and anything you do on CP is suspect. In short, you can't win either way unless you somehow curry special favor with Schlafly himself - merit has nothing to do with it.

For what it's worth, I had offered to provide Andy Schlafly with my personal contact info so he could verify I was for real (I'd even meet him in person, since I live in NJ as well), but that offer was ignored. The CP leadership is less interested in dispelling false negative perceptions of people like me than in using those false impressions as propaganda ("Think DinsdaleP's a reasonable guy? Ha! He's a sock of SpinyNorman, a member of a vandal site!") I've thought about posting copies of the private emails I received from TK after my perma-block from CP, which were laced with undeserved insults and profanity, but to what benefit? Since Andy Schlafly is blessing everything that's happened on CP so far this year, I no longer have a desire to even be a voice on that site anymore. Conservapedia is an insult to thinking people everywhere, and the most damning proof of that is that you never, ever see the site being mentioned by Phyllis Schlafly - it must be a keen embarrassment to have her family's name attached to it. I'd rather contribute on a site like this, where civil comments get civil responses instead.

I've rambled enough, but whatever you decide, Kotomi, you will always be respected for having made a great effort there. Take care, and you have my email if you want to stay in touch. --DinsdaleP 18:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Membership nomination

KotomiT was nominated for membership, but the voting was cancelled because KotomiT applied for membership by e-mail, and was granted membership on the grounds of being known to management.

Taj, your vote might not get counted due to not using the "exact" format, but I'm not sure. I also moved the braces to the end... Phil, many people miss those and add their vote "at the very end", you might want to address that somehow. ħuman Number 19 04:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I guess that the "strongly" could come under "If you would like to make further brief comment, you can add that on the same line". I'll make a couple of changes to the template to hopefully reduce the placement problem. Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 08:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you to everybody who voted (and especially to Wesley for the nomination) and of course, to Philip, for approving my request. I hope I can live up to the faith you have put in me. -- KotomiTOhayou! 11:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
You've lived up to the faith on other sites, thus our faith is not unfounded. --WesleySHello! 21:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Non-member support

I would support Jessica... but I'm not a member. The EmperorRise, my apprentice 21:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


I made a sort of rough sketch of one here. It might need extra bits, or some pruning possibly. Help yourself. New3.pngPink(Inertia presides over burnt modernist strides) 08:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

You are an absolute star, Pink! Thank you. I will have a look and play around with it. -- KotomiTOhayou! 08:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. ^_^ </blushing> New3.pngPink(Inertia presides over burnt modernist strides) 03:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Thought you'd be interested.

Maybe you already knew this but...

There's this site with various courses (mostly for learning Japanese and English but there's more, including cultural information), they're very useful for practicing. It works by using lists (which other users can create) containing items (questions) that are then learned through spaced repetition. The items may also contain audio samples, images and sample sentences that show up during testing.

I started using it a few days ago in order to learn kanji vocabulary and it's been very useful and enjoyable. Just sayin'. NF 18:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Formatting of Japanese language articles

I certainly appreciate every bit of information there is out there about the Japanese language (especially in the hope that, through sheer spread of such information, I will magically learn it fluently through osmosis). However, I have a suggestion/criticism: I think that the way you constructed the articles here (and on Conservapedia) could be structured in a way that's a bit less daunting to those who aren't prepared for the deluge of information. I would recommend putting the introduction information from the katakana, hiragana and kanji articles into a single "Japanese written language" article. You could do this to reduce the mild redundancies between articles, more clearly highlight the differences between the three and provide a central index from which you can link to subpages containing the actual symbols and explanations. This is just a small suggestion - I might be overreacting to how unpleasant the pages look due to the fact I haven't gotten around to installing the proper fonts, leading to all the symbols being replaced with tiny boxes containing what I believe to be each symbol's Unicode identification.Pascal 16:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Pascal. Actually, I think that might be a very good idea - and not so intimidating, as you say. Let me play around with it a bit and see what I can come up with. Thank you for the suggestion! Also, you have reminded me to add an infobox about having Japanese characters installed. -- KotomiTOhayou! 16:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Japanese numerical system

While categorizing pages I came upon your article on the Japanese numerical system. Despite my user name, I don't actually speak (or read) Japanese. I have a few comments, but would like some feedback before engaging in a major editing spree:

  • The article says, "After 10, the system remains relatively simple, for the same 10 characters are used in various combinations for the higher numbers." While true for numbers up to 99, that obscures the underlying system. Actually only the characters for 1 through 9 are used in combination with characters giving the position, and 一 isn't used except in the very last place. More to the point, 十 isn't any more special than, say, 百 or 千 (and while no example is given, I assume that 万 may actually be of a greater significance; could you provide an example for a number greater than 99,999, say, 220,000?).
  • I suspect there's no zero. Should the article explicitly say so?
  • Parts of the article sound rather unencyclopedic (I wouldn't expect to read a sentence like "If you enter a restaurant alone and are asked "nan nin desu ka?" (How many people?), a reply of "hitotsu", or "ichi" will probably earn you a blank stare." in the Encyclopedia Britannica). Should I try and copyedit it for a somewhat more formal tone? As you probably see from this very text, my own writing style probably is too formal, but we might try and aim for a middle ground.
  • I believe I once read in John Conway's On Numbers and Games that Japanese has single characters for a few very large numbers, on the order of 1020 or larger. I could probably look up the romaji transcripts (the book probably didn't provide the kanji). Should the article mention those?

Yours, Yoritomo 01:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hajimemashite, Yoritomo-san! My apologies for not replying sooner, but I am no longer so active on here (long story!) anymore. Luckily I still receive e-mail when this page changes, otherwise you might never have had a reply! Gomen, ne!? (~_^)
Now to the questions.
  • 220,000 would be "22 ten thousands" or "二十二万" (ni jyuu ni man). By "there's no zero" I am assuming you mean as a place-holder, right? In that case, there is no zero, as the "counters" serve as placeholders and if a counter is absent, then it is taken as zero. You are right, that should have been mentioned. Sorry! That is why the number above is "二十二万" and not "二十二万零千零百零十零" (Where 零 is rei or zero). Although I believe the Chinese do use 零 to indicate a zero value for hundreds or tens, for example.
  • I confess, I am not too clear on what you mean by "While true for numbers up to 99, that obscures the underlying system. Actually only the characters for 1 through 9 are used in combination with characters giving the position, and 一 isn't used except in the very last place. More to the point, 十 isn't any more special than, say, 百 or 千" I suppose the underlying system is still the same for numbers above 99. All that would change is the counter for hundreds or thousands. So, in essence, you are still counting from 1 to 99, just with a 百 in front. Maybe it could be worded better! (-_-;)
  • 十, 百 and 千 are all "special" in their own way, as they indicate the 10s, 100s and 1000s columns of numbers.
  • There is only one other large number probably worth mentioning, and that is chou (兆), which is equal to 1012. That would enable you to count to 9,999,999,999,999,999 or 9,999兆. However, you can imagine how cumbersome that becomes! 706,259,728 becomes 七億六百二十五万九千七百二十八 (nana oku roppyaku ni jyuu go man kyuu sen nana hyaku ni jyuu hachi).
  • However, there are even larger numbers, such as 垓 (gai) = 1020, 澗 (kan) = 1036 and even 無量大数 (muryōtaisū) = 1068 or 1088 (the difference being a change made to the Jinkōki between 1631 and 1634.) But that would be overkill to include them, I think.
  • Please forgive me my writing style! You are right, I do sometimes lapse into "chatty mode" rather than instruction mode. I think I have an inherent fear of making something sound too 'dry.' Please feel free to tighten things up. (>_<)
  • The other thing I just realised is I left out the section on fractions (or numbers less than 1) and negative numbers. Although the latter is easy. It is just the number, with mainasu (マイナス - note it's katakana, because it is a direct 'import' of "minus"). So just as you would say "minus two," we would say "mainasu-ni." What did we say before "minus" came along? I have no idea! (*-*)
  • I hope this helps. Please feel free to ask any more questions, or to savage what I have written. I have examinations looming for my students, so my time is limited, but I will try and help in the meantime. --KotomiT 15:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I've made some changes, most significantly to the coverage of 十 and the higher powers of 10. I wondered about 10,000: The table gives the pronunciation of 万 as ichi han; the ichi seems to appear from nowhere. Even stranger, the "formal numbers" section states that the 10,000 yen note is marked 壱万 (one ten thousand). Is there a "一" missing for the non-formal 10,000? Is 壱 also added to lower powers of 10 for formal numbers?
I've also added a line on negative numbers; I'll leave the fractions to you. Are decimal fractions (such as 3.141, "three point one four one") worth a separate mention? They might be used in technical contexts. Yoritomo 15:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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