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The first three topics were originall posted on user talk:Philip J. Rayment.


Bible references

G'day Philip. Are you familiar with the Bible references tagging system used at Conservapedia? All Bible references (eg Genesis 1:1) that appear in articles are automatically tagged so that hovering the mouse over them shows the text in a pop-up window. I believe it's done by linking to It's a very useful feature and would be appropriate for this site - do you know if you will be able to install it?--CPalmer 18:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's called RefTagger, and it's not BibleGateway it links to. I've already asked someone about it, but they seem to have overlooked it. It's not a MediaWiki extension (it's designed for all websites), and it works by putting a bit of Javascript in the end of each page of HTML (just before the <body> tag). I haven't been able to find how to do that myself. Assistance welcome! Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 22:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it goes in the site-wide monobook.css file thing? You could look at the one at CP to see if there is anything obvious. ħuman Number 19 23:00, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Without having looked at any sort of documentation (gimme a break, it's past midnight here), I'd say that Human's guess sounds right, even though it's called Common.js - and as that page shows, there are also skin-specific ones. --Sid 23:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, having looked at CP's Common.js/Conserv.js files and the actual tutorial (, it seems that you need to actually update the PHP files for the skins. --Sid 23:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I see it's now installed and working well - excellent work!--CPalmer 08:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Minor item for the wishlist


Just a quick question: Is User CSS/Scripting activated? It's possible that I made a mistake while creating my monobook.css file, but I think it should be valid. So could you maybe activate them please? :) (Config settings in question would be $wgAllowUserCss and $wgAllowUserJs) --Sid 20:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd been trying to figure out myself why it wasn't working, and so far hadn't found those settings. Thanks you you, I've now done them. And welcome, Sid. Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 22:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Awesome, high-five! :) --Sid 23:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for <math> tags

Could you introduce <math> - tags? I'm somehow used to them :-) Berichtigen 20:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I second this request. They'd be helpful for . . . well, for math. -Noether 20:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
If I do that, is it going to play havoc with the tags you've put above? Seriously, I thought I'd read somewhere that the Math extension was now part of core code. Or do I need to activate it? If someone knows what's needed to save my going hunting, I'll get it done. Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 22:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I didn't try this myself (yet), but this (and the linked "Enable TeX") might be a good starting point, I think. And I HTML-escaped those two tags, just to be on the safe side if/when you go through with it. --Sid 23:23, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
It might be core now but you are still going to require a TeX installation and Ghostscript. Are you using a Linux server? π 09:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I thought that I'd discussed this in more detail already, but perhaps I'm thinking of .svg support. I've looked into this and I think it's a bit beyond me. The person who set up the site must be busy with other things, because he's been unresponsive. But I possibly could do this one myself once I find time to have a good study of the instructions and time to play around a bit. And yes, I gather that it is Linux. Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 15:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Is this fixed? If you want help with this, please let me know, (done that) :) Rolf Lampa 14:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC) (RIL)
I've let you know by e-mail. Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 15:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Date links

One of the things that I liked about Wikipedia was their recognition of the rest of the world (i.e. other than the U.S. of A.), and also the software recognising that (much of) the rest of the world does dates differently to the U.S.A. The software does this by means of special code that's been there since the earliest days, but only if the dates are linked. (I tried to have this option implemented on Conservapedia, but without success.)

However, there is admittedly a problem with this, in every unimportant date being linked to a page regarding that date, and for this reason I believe, Wikipedia has decided to stop linking most dates. It's also true that as long as the month is spelt out, the date is clear to both Americans and others, even if not in their usual format, so although the automatic formatting is nice, it's not necessary for clarity.

I also wondered if Semantic MediaWiki would provide an alternative solution, but I don't believe so. Another possibility is that pages could include some Javascript to automatically convert dates, in a similar manner to RefTagger scanning the page on loading to convert Bible references to links.

Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 15:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


    • Disable page creation for non-auto-confirmed users, and set autoconfirmation to 3 minutes. Hopefully this will stymie most of the current crop of spammers without inconveniencing genuine new editors.

Why didn't you implemented this? It should work. --Tonatiuh 04:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I did, and I can't figure out why it's not working. Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 11:04, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems that the EditSubPages extension, which allows anonymous editors to edit the aSK:Leave a message page (and the sandpit page), was interfering with the user rights, so continued to allow non-auto-confirmed users to create pages. I have temporarily turned that extension off. The problem is that I want to retain the ability for people to leave a message without creating an account.
The instructions for that extension say that it should be loaded after the user rights are set, which I had, although I did then set a couple of other user rights after that, so perhaps that caused the problem. I'll have to experiment more.
Philip J. Raymentdiscuss 01:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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